From Salon Magazine
August 1997
If you thought that Fleetwood Mac was forever relegated to the bargain bins,
dusty garage bound depositories of vinyl and the tedium of classic-rock radio,
wake up and smell the 70s. The Big Mac is back, looking and sounding improbably
vital on "The Dance" a live recording assembled from three L.A.
sound-studio concerts that the band performed earlier in the summer.
It's been 20 years since Fleetwood Mac's commercial pinnacle, the multiplatinum
rumination on failed romance, "Rumours." The onetime British blues
band, first assembled by singer-guitarist Peter Green, bass-player John McVie
and drummer Mick Fleetwood, has gone through many different incarnations. The
only continuity from lineup to lineup was the ever-present rhythm section of
McVie and Fleetwood. But the Anglo-American version that recorded
"Rumours" was the most successful Fleetwood Mac of all.
This particular Fleetwood Mac, spotlighting the vocals and songwriting of
pop-wise guitarist Lindsey Buckingham, blues keyboardist Christine McVie and
ethereal folkie Stevie Nicks, has reunited for "The Dance." It's an
unlikely reunion, especially when you consider how, even at their apex, the band
thrived on turbulence. Buckingham and Nicks were ex-lovers; John and Christine
McVie's marriage fell apart. Today, the gossip-hungry watch "Entertainment
Tonight," but in the '70s, you could just watch Fleetwood Mac.
When Buckingham left the band in the mid '80s, after a run of more than a
decade, the group went on with reshuffled personnel but never came close to the
tumultuous magic generated with Buckingham at the helm. Now, circumstances have
brought them back together. It smacks of expedience. In their solo endeavors,
Nicks and Buckingham haven't matched the commercial wallop of their tenure with
Fleetwood Mac (although Buckingham's brilliant, idiosyncratic albums "Go
Insane" and "Out of the Cradle" garnered critical acclaim). That
said, "The Dance" is limber and lithe.
"The Dance" is now available as a pristine 17-song CD release.
Meanwhile, a video special culled from the same shows has been airing regularly
on MTV (with a 22-song home video version due in mid-September). It's a kind of
greatest-hits compilation, with a few new songs tossed in. But many of the most
familiar numbers are reworked with new arrangements (i.e.Nicks harmonizing with
Buckingham on the verses of "Go Your Own Way" and Buckingham
performing "Big Love" as a solo) or instrumentation (i.e. a banjo on
"Say You Love Me" and the USC Marching Band on "Don't
Stop"). Buckingham's near-rockabilly rave-up, "My Little Demon,"
is the standout of the previously unheard material.
What is most surprising about "The Dance" is the exuberance and warmth
of the band after all this time apart. It is particularly evident on video (as
in an embrace between Buckingham and Nicks after a tender duet on
"Landslide"). In this case, absence has surely generated fondness. And
it is remarkable how well the older songs have held up over time. Nicks'
"Silver Springs," with exquisite shadings from Buckingham's guitar, is
simply lovely. Christine McVie's ballads are uplifting and sung with genuine
passion. And Buckingham is a wonder, particularly when attacking his own
compositions.
Currently, the quintet is preparing for a fall American concert tour.
Buckingham, holed up in a Beverly Hills hotel suite, took some time to chat in
frank fashion with Salon about the return of the Big Mac.
You're a decade removed from the band and, reportedly, your departure was not on
the best of terms. How did you get back together?
I had been working on another solo record and had tried cutting stuff with the
band that I had been using on the road. I wasn't happy with the results and
around that time, I ran into Mick, who was in a good place, so I asked him to
play drums on my record. By that time I had already done an album that wasn't a
sidebar to Fleetwood Mac, and I had a certain amount of confidence. Then I got
John in on bass. Christine was giving help on the singing side and had added
some keyboard. And it was like a light bulb went off at Warner Brothers. Maybe
the time is right for this thing. I guess the big bulb went off with Mick, too.
Mick's life is Fleetwood Mac. He's been there through all the different lineups.
Having him work on my record was a way to get him off the road after the debacle
of the Dave Mason/ Bekka Bramlett version of Fleetwood Mac.
What do you think about Fleetwood Mac's longevity and all the different versions
of the band? Did it bother you to see them going on after you set a standard and
left?
It was really disturbing when they wound up on a nostalgia tour triple-bill
package as the middle act between Pat Benatar and REO Speedwagon. Mick could
rationalize it, because continuing the band was the same thing he had done after
Peter Green had left. That's when Christine joined. Then, Stevie and I joined.
So now you're back with the quintessential version of the band. What made you
think this would be a good idea?
For my part, I had made a lot of changes in my life. I was done with my
girlfriend after 12 years, the last few being especially difficult. I had new
management and new lawyers. And I had gotten past all the things I'd seen as
baggage with Fleetwood Mac. So there was this pitch to do the band again. I went
from being this solo artist, struggling to get an album out there every four or
five years, to starting over with the monolith. "Fleetwood Mac"
they're the magic words that just open doors. As soon as the word gets out that
this Fleetwood Mac is back, MTV wants to do a special, the Hollywood Bowl is
calling for a concert date, and so on. I'm interested in perpetuating a career
on my own, but for this, I don't have to do a lot or commit a lot. And it could
open doors for my stuff down the road. It'll remind people what I do. My album
can wait a year.
You seem somewhat ambivalent about postponing your solo album. Why?
If I wanted to keep making the albums that I wanted to make, I had to keep the
machine stoked. I think the new album I'm working on is the best thing I've ever
done, and I'm gonna take some recording equipment with me on the road. But when
you sell "only" 300,000 copies an album, the company starts to apply a
little pressure. There have been moments when it's felt a little overwhelming.
When I'm making a record, it's usually done bit by bit, by me, like the way Beck
works. You can't listen to Beck and say, "What musicianship!" But it's
still great. It's like painting -- painting the corners of the canvas, letting
the painting lead you. But it can lead you to some second-guessing. There's not
a lot of people giving you feedback or constructive criticism, which can be an
obstacle. But if you have a vision, you try to realize it. For instance, I have
a version of "My Little Demon" that I recorded at home that's much
rawer and more surreal than what it became when I turned it over to the band.
With Fleetwood Mac, it blows my mind how easily things can get done. It was
eye-opening when I did my own tour and the brown-nosing radio junket for
"Out of the Cradle." You have to marvel at the lack of interest in
anything that isn't already a big radio success. Even someone with a good track
record can come up against indifference. It's a lesson in appreciating aspects
of what you had. I was watching the actress Holly Hunter on television the other
day. She said that you can't always make the movies you wanna make if you want a
long-term career. You have to compromise.
How do you and the rest of the band members feel about this project?
There's a whole element of buoyancy in what we're doing now. We're seeing
through all of the history and getting to the basic chemistry we have together.
There's something intuitively musical, without that baggage. It's been sweet
instead of bittersweet. I'm having a better time now than I did for the entire
12 years we were together. And they know I've only committed to only 40-odd
dates in the U.S. They can't make me the bad guy if they wanna go to Europe.
What's the reaction been so far?
After viewing the concert video, an MTV executive wrote a really nice letter.
And he was surprisingly honest. He said something like, "We didn't think
you could play anymore. It blew our minds." There's been a lot of good
feedback.
What makes this any different, or less crass, than other reunion tours, such as
those by the Eagles, Kiss or Styx?
You expect that people will be cynical. At least, there's going to be a faction
that is cynical. I was cynical myself about the Eagles reunion, much less the
Kiss reunion. Watching the Eagles, I don't sense that Don and Glenn are enjoying
themselves, nor is there a sense of closure. I'm not saying that our reunion
doesn't follow a formula. I'm surprised I'm doing it. A year ago, I would've
said, "What? Are you crazy?" I had to weigh the pros and cons of doing
this. But the amount of cynicism around this is much less than I would have
thought. I'm surprised we are enjoying it as much as we are. But there seems to
be a truth to what we're doing.